FWWM The Missing Pieces

I don’t think that Lynch expected to use digital effects while shooting the scene. It’s more likely he decided the scene could be augmented while editing the Missing Pieces for the Blu Ray release. He’s always loved manipulating images, and that kind of digital tinkering feels totally consistent with this approach.
 
I don’t think that Lynch expected to use digital effects while shooting the scene. It’s more likely he decided the scene could be augmented while editing the Missing Pieces for the Blu Ray release. He’s always loved manipulating images, and that kind of digital tinkering feels totally consistent with this approach.
When I said “similar technique” I just meant he likely filmed it in slow motion (though nothing crazy) with the brightest lights and a film stock with less noise as an experiment that didn’t work. But decades later there’s now a tool that can bring it closer to what he imagined.
 
I thought most of the Missing Pieces was cut for time, rather than because it was shot incorrectly..
 
It's her smile. I've seen it in person. It wouldn't be able to be faked with early 90s CG without a bigger budget than Lynch had available to him.

And I agree she deserved at least a nomination for best actress. That performance was visceral and I often come to tears during her death scene.

I only watch the fan Q edit of FFWM anymore because it's beautifully done and many of the cuts needed to be in there but obviously the studio did the typical "it's too long" song and dance like they did for Dune, Blue Velvet, etc. On that note, the full version of Blue Velvet is way better too.

I was actually shocked that David even released the missing pieces because he usually gets pissed off when he has to edit down his vision.

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I thought most of the Missing Pieces was cut for time, rather than because it was shot incorrectly..
They were really. Almost all the Missing Pieces are irrelevant and hugely indulgent (nothing wrong with an artist doing as he wants!) They all seem to set up the two sequel movies. Perhaps some could have turned up in the intended sequels. They're loads of fun to watch, but the only one I'd want back in FWWM is the smile on the staircase. The film, as it is, is perfect. It's interesting that basically all the Missing Pieces that are extended scenes use different takes. In the era of mid- and post-credit scenes in movies, the perfect mid-credits scene would have been the one with Annie and the nurse walking off with the ring and the perfect post-credits scenes would have been either the 'But I haven't brushed my teeth' scene or the one where Coop realises he's trapped. It's interesting how much material from The Return originates in TMP.

I'll be interested to see whether Wisteria/Unrecorded Night relates to Twin Peaks or not. My immediate thought was the Sherlock Holmes adventure where a man goes to dinner at a house - Wisteria Lodge - and, when he awakens in his bedroom the next morning, he finds the house empty and deserted. Given Mark Frost's love of Sherlock Holmes, one can imagine someone spending the night at dinner in a house with red curtains and a herringbone floor only to wake up in the morning to find it empty!
 
My favorite is the extended scene of Philip Jeffries and the room above the convenience store.

I don't find anything that Lynch films to be indulgent or irrelevant. But that's just me.

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My favorite is the extended scene of Philip Jeffries and the room above the convenience store.

I don't find anything that Lynch films to be indulgent or irrelevant. But that's just me.

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I mean it in a good way: it's Lynch indulging himself in the delights of Twin Peaks the same way I indulge myself in a second portion of a hearty meal!
 
If anyone really thinks that shot is a still and/or CG and/or a digital blend or whatever, just pause the video and scrub back and forth a few times. Sheryl is an amazing actor and you can see what she did right there. Everything moves.
 
It's her smile. I've seen it in person. It wouldn't be able to be faked with early 90s CG without a bigger budget than Lynch had available to him.
No one is saying it was done in the early ‘90s. The Missing Pieces were assembled in or around 2014, and the digital manipulation (if any) would have been done in that time period.
 
I just showed the Laura smile scene to my wife and she's shocked anyone could think it's a still image! You see her moving! She's staying very still and it's likely slow motion, but it's absolutely filmed footage of Sheryl Lee smiling. I also think her iris movement is real. You can see the green around her eyes adjusting to it also. There is absolutely no way Lynch can achieve any of this with his digital FX skills. Lynch did not Black Hole Sun Sheryl Lee.
 
If anyone really thinks that shot is a still and/or CG and/or a digital blend or whatever, just pause the video and scrub back and forth a few times. Sheryl is an amazing actor and you can see what she did right there. Everything moves.
Yes, I've never for a moment thought that there was any computer trickery involved. It looked like a well-shot slow motion smile that is absolutely terrifying. It ties in with the moment in Harold's house.
 
If anyone really thinks that shot is a still and/or CG and/or a digital blend or whatever, just pause the video and scrub back and forth a few times. Sheryl is an amazing actor and you can see what she did right there. Everything moves.
It is not a still.

It is not CG.

Sheryl Lee is presented, brilliant performance and all, as she was filmed.

Frame blending is a technique of creating false frames between real frames as a composite of the frame before and the frame after to create the illusion of smoother motion. Any time your TV plays a film shot at 24fps at 60fps it’s the same thing.

Just to be clear that we’re all in fact talking about the same thing before the mods banish us to the “Bickering semantics about Shery Lee’s Smile in the Missing pieces” thread.
 
I don’t agree. It looks like an effect achieved through overlapping images, drawing from the same well as Dern’s distorted face in Inland Empire.
What might have been done is that a slow-mo was shot, then computer manipulated further.

The normal speed for a movie is 24 frames per second. If you want a slowed down filmed shot, you have two choices. The first is that you shoot at a higher speed on set or location. That way, you run the film camera at 48 frames per second so that, when it plays back at normal 24fps, the image will be slowed down to half the speed. Shoot at 96fps and the shot will be a quarter of the speed in the movie. It creates a nice smooth slow-mo. However, that method uses up film stock quickly, as a quarter speed slow-mo shot uses four times as much film stock, which is pretty uneconomical.

The other easier option is to shoot at 24fps, then - in post-production - insert a duplicate of every frame, so each individual image runs for two frames instead of one. That will also slow down the motion, but makes it judder.

Both methods have their uses. John Woo, in his 80s and 90s classics, uses both methods for artistic effect.

The shot of Laura smiling looks like it could have been shot at a higher frame rate, but it's possible David Lynch slowed it down even more. In the digital age, when you slow down something that has already been shot, you can use computer software to scan all the original frames, then work out what a frame between those two frames might look like. It can take a bit of tweaking, but it's quite effective. It's a variant of the morphing effect used since at least The Abyss. When I'm working on corporate videos, for example, if an interviewee is sitting fairly still and there's a jump cut, because I've removed something he's said, I sometimes use a four-frame morph that can cover that jump cut.

So Laura's slow smile, which I believe is genuine, might have been slowed down even further than when it was shot. If it was shot at, say, 96fps, Lynch might have interpolated frames to give the impression it was shot at 192fps, for example.

Sorry if this is 'geek-speak'. I'm trying to keep it as simple as I can! :D
 
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I don’t agree. It looks like an effect achieved through overlapping images, drawing from the same well as Dern’s distorted face in Inland Empire.

I genuinely think it looks nothing like that. Do you have any particular reason for thinking so? When I look at the Dern face and Laura's face they couldn't be more different. The Dern thing looks like a weird surreal cheap effect. This is literally just Sheryl Lee smiling. You can recognize that it's her mouth, she has such an iconic way she smiles. Her cheeks and everything moves with her mouth, though she's clearly been told to try to keep her eyes very intense and still.

There is absolutely no way Lynch can achieve something that looks so realistic and natural as an Inland Empire-type effect. I am baffled here at what you're seeing.

Anyone want to post and compare screenshots? I would do it but I'm literally running out right now.
 
In fact if you view it on YouTube at 2x, yes it does look more natural and probably how it would have been shot / originated. Good call.
 
Also, compare it to the slow motion from the final shot of Laura’s face at the end of the film, which would have been filmed with the exact slo-mo as the staircase and there’s a more noticeable flicker effect and also not quite as smooth either
 
I genuinely think it looks nothing like that. Do you have any particular reason for thinking so? When I look at the Dern face and Laura's face they couldn't be more different. The Dern thing looks like a weird surreal cheap effect. This is literally just Sheryl Lee smiling. You can recognize that it's her mouth, she has such an iconic way she smiles. Her cheeks and everything moves with her mouth, though she's clearly been told to try to keep her eyes very intense and still.

There is absolutely no way Lynch can achieve something that looks so realistic and natural as an Inland Empire-type effect. I am baffled here at what you're seeing.

Anyone want to post and compare screenshots? I would do it but I'm literally running out right now.
Parts of the image are moving while other parts aren’t. I can’t put it any simpler than that. I already mentioned how steady the pinpoints of light in her eyes remain, even while the portions of the face around them are moving/morphing. It’s unnatural and unsettling in a way that you only register subconsciously unless you really analyze it closely. But if you’re not seeing what I see, c’est la vie. Once again, I’m not even fully certain I’m right, although I think I am.

And to be clear, I believe this was an idea that Lynch came up with in 2013 or 2014 when he was editing the footage and saw the potential to do a shot that’s very much in line with his website work from the prior decade as well as INLAND EMPIRE, as WorldFarAway notes. Not something he had planned at the time of shooting.

On the one hand, I’m sorry for bringing this up, because I feel like this conversation has exploded in a way I never meant it to. But on the other hand, I’m kind of shocked this has never been discussed before! I could have sworn there was a discussion around this on dugpa when The Missing Pieces came out (I was a lurker at that time), but aside from many people saying they loved the shot, the only references I can find to it being digitally manipulated were from David Locke and LostInTheMovies, and no further discussion ensued one way or the other.
 
I genuinely think it looks nothing like that. Do you have any particular reason for thinking so? When I look at the Dern face and Laura's face they couldn't be more different. The Dern thing looks like a weird surreal cheap effect. This is literally just Sheryl Lee smiling. You can recognize that it's her mouth, she has such an iconic way she smiles. Her cheeks and everything moves with her mouth, though she's clearly been told to try to keep her eyes very intense and still.

There is absolutely no way Lynch can achieve something that looks so realistic and natural as an Inland Empire-type effect. I am baffled here at what you're seeing.

Anyone want to post and compare screenshots? I would do it but I'm literally running out right now.

It’s obviously not as extreme as Inland Empire, but in the same ballpark. Maybe you’re right, but to me the shot feels uncanny rather than in any way realistic or natural. I think it’s the way the muscles in the upper half of her face remain still as she smiles - it’s not a facial expression I’ve seen in reality, and I believe it goes beyond what even a talented actor can do. The scene also has the feel of late Lynch, so strikes me as something he developed years later rather than something he would have shot at the time. The fact that David Locke, Mr Reindeer, Joel Bocko, and many YouTube commenters all came to the same conclusion indicates that it’s not such a baffling belief.
 
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