The Film Thread

Trouble is, I just don't credit people whose only vision was on dollar signs thinking that deeply about it. If they were keen on an authentic sequel, rather than a cash-in, they'd have done anything to get Wes Craven back. This was a 'get a film out on the cheap' and make maximum bucks off it. This wasn't really the era of franchises: this is the era of their birth. When Elm Street 2 made a load of money, a third became inevitable, but everyone involved in 2 knew it was a bad film.

Oh, I fundamentally disagree with this. I think intentional or not, if humans are making it, art will happen, and I also don't think doing something just for money somehow invalidates the artistic process. My wife has done graphic novels just for money but she still put a lot of personal feelings and experience into the work, even subconsciously.
 
Oh, I fundamentally disagree with this. I think intentional or not, if humans are making it, art will happen, and I also don't think doing something just for money somehow invalidates the artistic process. My wife has done graphic novels just for money but she still put a lot of personal feelings and experience into the work, even subconsciously.
Agreed. I'd modify it and say 'art can happen'. In this case, I think the effects guys were doing great art in the second film. But the film itself, if it's art at all, is kitsch at best. Hamburger, more realistically! When a film is thrown together like that with so little care and attention to the storyline, simply as a cash-in, it's not art: it's product. Going from the first film to the second is like like eating a ribeye steak, then being served McDonalds!

I've just watched the fourth film (will write about it shortly.) My view on what 3 and 4 do to ANoES2?

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The second film turned art into product, the third and fourth turn product into art. The fourth film, with Alice, effectively does Jesse's character arc right. Will write about it in a bit. I need to get the Freddy Krueger rap track out of my head first!! :D
 
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master
aka 'Freddy Goes Mainstream' aka 'The One That Killed the Series...'

I make no apologies, I love this film, which is the first Elm Street I ever watched. It's the brasher, late 80s commercial sister film to Part Three. Part Three is an authentic dark fantasy masterpiece, rather than a horror. The fourth film transplants that dark fantasy aesthetic to a mainstream Hollywood adventure. From the outset, the film feels bigger. Those deep bass synth notes kick in over a quote from the Book of Job - a text which questions how and why the righteous suffer - and Tuesday Knight's vocals begin for her song Nightmare. It's very commercial. Commercial music is something you can't help but notice in this film. Seemingly every time someone gets in a car, every time someone walks into a diner, you get commercial music. The budget for this film was one and a half times that of the previous film and there's a gloss here that we didn't see before.

Renny Harlin does a great job, given he was roped in late in the day, the script was a mess and he had a very tight, fixed delivery date. Worse, the writers' strike began and any discussions with his scriptwriters had to be seriously off the record. Once again, this film proves that if there's talent and enthusiasm, a good film can come out of rotten circumstances. So the first sequel, Freddy's Revenge, has no excuses for being so dire.

The fourth film has the advantage of being a sequel to a surreal dark fantasy, rather than a supernatural slasher film. The dream world is just that now: a parallel universe, a vast surreal universe next to ours inhabited by Freddy, rather than a dream being something in someone's head. There are some clever elements such as a time loop Alice and Dan are trapped in to prevent them getting to save one of their friends. They realise they are asleep, but are clearly moving in the real world, so there's a real nightmarish distortion of time and reality at play.

I'm not sure I'd classify the third and fourth films as horror at all really. Harlin felt that, by now, Freddy was so familiar that he should be more 'James Bond', the cool guy in control of the dreams. It's a fun approach and I like it here, but I think it was bad for the series in the long run. The third film managed to balance the dark humour and scares, keeping Freddy as something malevolent. Harlin goes so far as to call his Freddy the 'hero'. And he's a tricksy, naughty, wisecracking, loveable bad boy now. We get even see Robert Englund in drag as a nurse. It gets really silly, but it's fun.

Fortunately, even if Freddy is the 'hero', that doesn't stop the rest of the cast doing a great job and giving us a few teen movie archetypes that you can still root for. The film opens akin to 1942's The Mummy's Tomb, with a resurrected villain massacring the survivors of the previous film, before turning his attention to 'fresh meat.' I'm not sure what a 1942 movie audience would have made of Kharis being resurrected by flaming dog's urine, quite frankly! :D Regardless, Freddy is returned from the grave, his power still deriving itself from the souls of the Springwood children he's killed and collected. We get to see Joey, Kincaid and Kristen from the third film again. Kristen is played by actress and singer Tuesday Knight this time. She might as well be playing someone else, as she in no way resembles Patricia Arquette's Kristen physically or in terms of performance. It's the biggest weakness in the film, because Arquette's haunting performance was the heart of the previous movie. I care about Joey and Kincaid, but I only know this is Kristen because Joey, Kincaid and Kristen's obnoxious mother tell me she is.

After 'the decks are cleared' (Joey still having a weakness for skinny, large-breasted blondes!) Lisa Wilcox, playing Alice Johnson, takes the lead. And she's brilliant. Alice is my favourite character in the series. She starts out dowdy and wallflowerish, but due to events in the film - if we're going to go all meta here - she becomes a blend of the many different teen archetypes to become more than just a Dream Warrior, becoming the Dream Master. But Alice stays feminine throughout. She doesn't do the modern 'empowerment' schtick of behaving like a man, and the men in the film aren't diminished to make her look strong. Alice is a good person who gets dealt a lot of bad hands in life and turns things around to become truly strong. In many ways, Alice is Jesse (from the second film) done right. Alice is used as a conduit by Freddy to kill more people, so Alice develops the skills she inherits and learns to assimilate them to fight back.

Also essential to her character is her close relationship with her twin brother, Rick, who is Kristen's boyfriend. Their mother is dead and their father is an alcoholic and prescription drug addict. There's a lovely moment about three quarters of an hour in, after their friend Sheila's death when Alice breaks down, realising it was the ability she'd inherited from Kristen that dragged Sheila into the dream that killed her, so it was her fault. Dan, who is Rick's friend and the object of Alice's hidden, unrequited affections, questions Alice being so freaked out over Kristen's past remarks about Freddy Kreuger. Rick backs his sister, though, and, beginning to break down says 'Look at us; we're dropping like flies!' before running to his sister to embrace her. It's well acted and beautifully shot with a corridor in silhouette.

Alice is interesting because, unlike Nancy, who managed to escape Freddy for a time and hide from him, she becomes Freddy's archenemy. Freddy is powered by the children's souls, but Alice has all their powers. This sees an evolution of Freddy to being more than a mere ghost killing people in their dreams. He's the keeper of a negative gateway of dreams and claims to have been there a long time. So that potentially ties into Wes Craven's comments in New Nightmare about a malevolent force that likes being Freddy. When Freddy and Alice finally confront each other it's as the keepers of the positive gate and the negative gate of dreams duking it out.

The special effects are fantastic here. Most notable is probably Japanese effects artist Screaming Mad George (a regular collaborator of Society's Brian Yuzna) doing the bug transformation sequence where Brooke Theiss's Debbie Stevens is torn to bits as she becomes a cockroach. It's pretty excruciating to watch and fantastically gory. Turning someone who has entomophobia (I admit it, I looked up that word!) into a bug is classic Freddy cruelty! There's also a great sequence involving a cinema and Alice being dragged into the screen to face her fear of spending her life in a dead end job. It's interesting at this point that we see a reasonable amount of characters killed off earlier in the film returning in the dream sequence after their deaths to taunt Alice. All too often actors in these sorts of films do their scenes up to the murder, then they're gone. There's a special effect pizza with human heads in it too! Eek! The effects guy in the interviews on the DVD was bursting with enthusiasm talking about it, as well as the finale, where a number of prosthetics, animatronics and a 20 foot tall model of Freddy were used, plus Linnea Quigley's boobs (I kid you not!) Once again, that passion for creating physical effects comes through in the final film. All of the effects could be done now by a dozen bored blokes in a giant server room on a computer, but the physical presence of these items on set and in front of an actual camera makes them seem real in a way no computer effect would. It wouldn't be as inventive.

Ultimately, this is the peak of the Nightmare on Elm Street series. It's also the rush, the drug high, before it starts the comedown. Freddy's Nightmares would debut within three months of this film's release, running for two seasons. A fifth film was fast-tracked that arrived 51 weeks later. Freddy became a camp horror icon you could imagine hanging out with Herman Munster and Grandpa at the White House. There's a Freddy Krueger hiphop track on the end credits, where Englund, as Freddy, raps with the Fat Boys. It's that exhilarating moment before things are going to spiral out of control. Freddy got too big, too flamboyant. He was no longer that terrifying, shadowy figure with surreally long arms taunting Tina before gorily slashing her to pieces. He had become a snarky, wrinkly uncle who would make witty remarks at the dinner table to make your adoring kids giggle. He was a Roald Dahl grotesque and he had just done the Nightmare equivalent of Die Another Day's invisible car. There was simply nowhere else to go with the series. And things would never be as good again for the main Nightmare series.

The Blu-ray is far better quality than the previous film. After the coarsely grainy opening titles (optically processed titles) the grain becomes nice and steady, colour is good, although the contrast is still a bit high and it's darker than I remember the film being when I saw it originally. I obviously can't say which is more 'right'. The old video and TV version might have been too bright. Either way, I'm happy. The sound has a nice bass punch. Nice to hear the late Sinéad O'Connor too!

The fifth film is next. Apparently it's the censored version on the Blu-rays. I don't remember loving it, but it's been a long time...
 
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Another weird thing about Freddy’s Revenge:

I actually like the Christopher Young score in it, although it doesn’t sound anything like a Nightmare film.
 
Another weird thing about Freddy’s Revenge:

I actually like the Christopher Young score in it, although it doesn’t sound anything like a Nightmare film.
Yes, I've always liked Christopher Young's scores. I particularly liked his Hellraiser work. The second film has the issue of there not being an 'established style.' Failed sequels tend to go in a couple of directions: slavishly photocopy the original or completely fail to understand the original and make a film that barely ties in with the original at all. His score is good for a horror film, but as you say, isn't really an Elm Street score. Angelo Badalamenti really turned that around with his score, even if it lacks the effectiveness of Charles Bernstein's original.
 
And speaking of music and Freddy Krueger…

…his verse on the “Are You Ready For Freddy?” might be the worst rapping I’ve ever heard in my life.

Although I can forgive it, as I do genuinely love that ridiculous “Freddy’s Greatest Hits” record from The Elm Street Group.
 
And speaking of music and Freddy Krueger…

…his verse on the “Are You Ready For Freddy?” might be the worst rapping I’ve ever heard in my life.

Although I can forgive it, as I do genuinely love that ridiculous “Freddy’s Greatest Hits” record from The Elm Street Group.
It's almost as bad as Top Cat rapping in the opening titles of Yogi's Treasure Hunt!! It's was terribly 'in Vogue' at the time for pop tracks to have break out sections involving rap. Even the remix version of I Want Your Hands on Me on the fourth film has a rap section on it.

Poor Robert Englund, a classically-trained actor, becomes a superstar for wearing burn makeup, making bad puns and bad rapping! His parents must have been thinking 'We sent him to drama school for this?!' :D
 
I’m not typically someone who gets hung up on these things, but wow, I popped in a Nightmare 4 dvd from about 20 years ago, and it had none of the jarring contrast problems that I observed when watching it on (HBO) Max recently.

Now I’m paranoid that every older movie on streaming has some quality issue like this.
 
I’m not typically someone who gets hung up on these things, but wow, I popped in a Nightmare 4 dvd from about 20 years ago, and it had none of the jarring contrast problems that I observed when watching it on (HBO) Max recently.

Now I’m paranoid that every older movie on streaming has some quality issue like this.
I think some of the Blu-rays are actually worse than the DVDs! It's appalling that the original film on VHS here in the UK was uncut and a Blu-ray from 2010, has one of the most iconic death scenes in horror cinema cut, probably because no one at Warner did their research properly when it came to digging out what was probably a print. I mean, the Elm Streets made New Line. There would have been no Lord of the Rings series at New Line without the Elm Streets. It's terrible to see them treated so badly. I've watched all these films on VHS, broadcast, DVD and now Blu-ray and these Blu-rays are a bad job!! Like I say, I hope there are 4Ks next year for the 40th anniversary. I just don't think New Line's current owners care about the films very much. They forget that by the late 80s, these films were a sensation when they came out.
 
Kind of upsetting that some blu-rays are actually a step down from dvds, in terms of picture quality anyway.

I still remember how blown away I was during my first blu-ray experience — the pilot ep of Twin Peaks from the Complete Mystery set circa roughly 2015. The color in the opening credits was just so beautiful! I’ve been a Blu-ray advocate ever since, although this thread is leading me to rethink that.
 
I used to be obsessed with the one Freddy bit, "faster than a bastard maniac, more powerful than a loco-madman, it's Super Freddy!" which I saw randomly on TV one night. The awkward pause before the words "bastard maniac", the incoherence of it and how it doesn't even use worldplay or puns in any way conceived of on planet Earth just blew my mind. In high school (25 YEARS AGO!!!!) I drew this comic about it to pass to a Freddy fan friend of mine in the hall:

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There's also this:

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And this was on the back of the Bastard Maniac comic:

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Kind of upsetting that some blu-rays are actually a step down from dvds, in terms of picture quality anyway.
I think it's worth bearing in mind that in the early days, many Blu-rays were using the same source materials as the DVDs. While it was acknowledged that HD scans made better DVDs, there was often a lot of DNR and edge enhancement applied to the HD scans due to the extreme compression used on DVDs. Additionally there were scans created for the failed HD-DVD format which were of lower quality than a Blu-ray would use that were repurposed when the format war ended.
I still remember how blown away I was during my first blu-ray experience — the pilot ep of Twin Peaks from the Complete Mystery set circa roughly 2015. The color in the opening credits was just so beautiful! I’ve been a Blu-ray advocate ever since, although this thread is leading me to rethink that.
These Nightmare transfers were created before the 2010 Blu-rays, so they're at least a decade and a half old. Modern Blu-rays would use a 4K transfer from the original camera negative. And, indeed, Warners insist on OCN for everything now. Only Christopher Nolan, with his unusual pulling power, insists on the interpositive being used. I remain a big advocate for the format but the Blu-ray is only as good as its source. I just watched Elm Street 5 and the quality is drastically better than any of the past ones.

I think the problem with digital grading of old material is that there's a tendency to overdo the contrast. I find that I have to go through all my photos drastically reducing the contrast and shadow levels. Grass lawns almost always arrive looking fluorescent green. A lot of modern phones are set to contrast boost everything. It's been a problem I've had when I've had photos developed down the years. All photo printing machines have an automatic colour and contrast boost. It can make images look very striking, but also utterly unrealistic. I have to print photos at home now, having carefully balanced the colour and light levels myself. There were moments in the Nightmare films where I struggled to see what's going on.

Things have improved greatly over the last few years, fortunately.
 
A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child (will contain spoilers)

Well, that was a turn up for the books! This is a somewhat unloved entry in the series. As longtime producer/director Rachel Talalay remarks in the extras, the subject matter of the film - pregnancy and bereavement - wasn't what teen audiences wanted to see. I didn't enjoy this film when I was a teenager and I've pretty much ignored it since the 1990s. I'm not sure I even got around to looking at the DVD in the boxset I bought a good 20 years ago, which means I might not have watched this in 30 years. So here I am, no longer a teenager. I'm 48, unmarried and childless, to my great regret, but I have friends who are married with children. This film had a big impact on me this time. I think it's bloody brilliant, actually.

It's a very grown up film using the Freddy concept to deal with a mother's fears for her child and the pressures that come from bereavement during pregnancy. The manipulative behaviour of an abuser is dealt with and we see the impact of pushy parents on children - in this Dan and Greta have demanding parents, while Alice is more nurturing. Crucially, the kids all graduate from high school at the beginning - a significant step into the adult world. In many ways, this is a drama film that happens to have major a horror film plot running alongside it.

Director Stephen Hopkins brings a welcome gothic sensibility to proceedings, at times visually hearkening back to Wes Craven's original film. At the same time he uses some wild visuals in the dream world, which his screenwriters say they regard as being the collective unconscious. Hopkins actually does a great job of closing off the four film storyline that runs through Nightmares 1, 3, 4 and 5. This is also the last movie that widely used the 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' name for 19 years. The second movie and everything that follows 5 seem to be separate continuities.

There are lovely tie-ins to the past in this film, making things cohesive between the various movies, which all have distinct identities due to the different creative teams. We spend a good deal of time in Nancy's crumbling old house, we return to the ruined Westin Hills Psychiatric Hospital from 3, where Nancy, Neil and Kristin fought Freddy and we first learned of the 100 maniacs. Amanda Krueger returns. Alice's dad says how nice it will be to have a boy running around the house again, referencing Alice's late twin brother Rick. There's sense of decay in the film, mirroring the idea of new life, not just scene with rotting food in the refrigerator (I love the stop motion!) which is symbolic, but in buildings around the town. Nancy's house has been an abandoned ruin for a long while, but it's in a major state of overgrowth and collapse here. Westin Hills is now abandoned, presumably following all the deaths in the third film. Alice also still has her late friend Debbie's aversion to creepy crawlies! The idea that Alice's baby sleeping is pulling people into the dream world is great, because reality itself seems to fall apart in the town, building on the time loops of the previous film.

Visually, this film is gorgeous. Details on Stephen Hopkins's early career aren't easy to find, although Rachel Talalay mentions something about art direction. There's certainly a great, painterly visual aesthetic in the film. Hopkins's regular cinematographer, Peter Levy, who had worked on Hopkins's previous (debut) film, Dangerous Game, lights and shoots this film exceptionally well. It's probably the best looking film in the series since the original.

In terms of cast, everyone is good. Lisa Wilcox is astonishing, blowing even her performance in the previous film out of the water. Where the previous film turned the weak, 'ugly duckling' into a swan, this time Alice - still shown to have elements of her dead friends' and brother's personalities - finds herself vulnerable in a different way. Freddy needs to keep Alice alive until he can possess her son, in utero, and be reborn. So Alice is essentially Sigourney Weaver's Ripley from Alien 3 a few years early! Lisa Wilcox is well up to the task. She has to play a lover, a bereaved single mother, a Dream Master, a friend and a detective. She's definitely the lead character in this film, not Freddy.

Nicholas Mele shines as Alice's father here. In the fourth film he's pathetic, zombie-like, hooked on alcohol and prescription drugs. In the time between films, devastated by the loss of his son, he's joined AA, reformed and is doing well. Just as Alice found strength in the fourth film, that newfound strength appears to have influenced him.

I'm sorry that Danny Hassel's Dan Jordan has to die here. Part of me wishes the film had been about two young parents trying to save their child. His death scene is extremely well shot and really nasty. In a way, it's a shame it was ultimately an automobile crash in the real world, though, as that had already been done in the fourth film. Maybe it was what Freddy always intended. Interestingly we see injury detail and shock of the surviving lorry driver too, which is something all to often overlooked in films.

With Dan gone, Alice has to rely on some newer friends she made in the aftermath of the fourth film. Erika Anderson's role as Greta is brief and she's not altogether got time to be believable. Her pushy mother seems to have come from a completely different movie. She's a wildly over the top character, pushing well into caricature. Both characters could have walked out of Heathers, actually. Anderson is fine - I mainly know her from playing sexy roles in Zandalee and the like. She was in the Invitation to Love scenes in Twin Peaks. Her death scene is utterly grotesque. I saw it uncut many years ago, but this Blu-ray seriously trims the scene to the point of incoherence. We don't see Freddy scooping out her guts and feeding them to her. It's still bonkers and surreal, though.

Joe Seeley as the comicbook fan-turned-detective Mark Gray grows on me across the film. He's a bit weak and sub-late 80s Keanu Reeves to begin with, but I came to like him. He's the one who has to bring up the awkward possibility of abortion as a way to stop Freddy. When Alice says absolutely not, he smiles and says they'll find another way. I came to like him from there on. His reaction made him seem to grow up with the attitude that he'll take responsibility for helping Alice in any way he can. His death - also apparently heavily edited - is very clever, seemingly doing the Sin City black-and-white/colour splash style decades early, as he battles Freddy in a comicbook reality.

Kelly Jo Minter as Yvonne Miller gives a scorching performance. She becomes Alice's rock in the film. She's the rational one and thinks the whole idea of Freddy is bullshit until well into the film. Given Wilcox is on fire here, Minter needed to give a hell of a performance so Yvonne stand alongside Alice convincingly. And boy does she! I thought she was done for on the diving board!

Crucially, I cared about the supporting cast and didn't want them to die.

Mention also must go to Whit Hertford, then 11, who plays the soul of Alice's gestating baby, Jacob. In his scenes we see a mother's fear of an abuser manipulating her child. He's fabulous in his small amount of screen time. And those eyes!! Freddy is very much an abuser in this film. He taunts the pregnant, vulnerable Alice, he goes after her boyfriend and her friends, isolating her, and manipulates her child against her, while making her seem like she's mentally ill in the real world. Again, that's some very adult subtext. Another thing that stands out at the end is that we see Alice take responsibility for her son and Amanda, suffering, taking responsibility for the monstrous child she was forced to bring into the world, locking herself away with him in purgatory, which is a dark end for a woman who went through Hell in real life. A nice visual and subtextual nod to Psycho in there too.

There are a couple of moments that really hit me. One is the very recently bereaved Alice alone in the kitchen early on, just crying. Her dad walks in and she shakes herself up and tries to be normal. It's a very natural moment. The day my grandmother died, my parents took care of all the legal details, while I spent the day with my grandfather at his and my grandmother's house. He dozed off in his chair mid-afternoon and I took the teacups out to the kitchen. I was washing up and just broke down in tears the same way. Another great scene is where Alice's late boyfriend's parents come to see her to offer to adopt the child, following a call from a doctor who is concerned about Alice's mental state. It's a difficult scene. The parents are clearly from a different, wealthier class than Alice and they don't demonstrate any great warmth. The father threatens to push in a legal/psychiatric direction when Alice says no to the adoption and Alice's father boldly stands up for her. Dan's mother noticeably refers to her husband as 'Mr', not by his first name when talking to Alice, so one assumes they disapproved of Dan having a relationship with Alice. Dan's mother cries a lot, because for all their snobbishness, they're bereaved too and utterly broken. Ultimately they're worried about their grandson. It's a well-performed scene.

I'm really glad I watched this film. It's nice to reassess something positively after decades. It's different and definitely not as commercial as its predecessor. It's also an excellent closure to the main storyline of four of the first five films. Much as the films were about kids fighting Freddy, we finish up with a mother, grandfather and baby boy moving on and growing up.
 
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I used to be obsessed with the one Freddy bit, "faster than a bastard maniac, more powerful than a loco-madman, it's Super Freddy!" which I saw randomly on TV one night. The awkward pause before the words "bastard maniac", the incoherence of it and how it doesn't even use worldplay or puns in any way conceived of on planet Earth just blew my mind. In high school (25 YEARS AGO!!!!) I drew this comic about it to pass to a Freddy fan friend of mine in the hall:

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There's also this:

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And this was on the back of the Bastard Maniac comic:

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I was pretty into Nightmare on Elm Street when I was in junior high. I saw the first one on VHS at a sleepover in the middle of the night, and it managed to really terrify me. My friend had gone to the video store and asked for the scariest movie. (You can argue about this, but it worked on me.) One day at school I found a simple pen drawing on lined paper taped to a locker, depicting Freddy with a wicked smile, holding up his glove. It wasn’t very skilled, but I really liked it for some reason, and I wanted to know who drew it. I kept asking around. but I never got to the bottom of the mystery, although I suspect that it was drawn by a girl.

The second movie was shockingly bad, but the third one was quite enjoyable. I had a tie-in novelization that I liked as well, and I think that it was probably connected to the third film. It went into Freddy's conception, as well as his upbringing, and how his father was a pimp who beat him with a leather strap. It was really pretty messed up.

One of my junior high schoolmates and I even had a plan to create a Freddie glove!

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Whoops, I mean a Freddy glove. It would have been an old brown cotton gardening glove, “blades” cut from sheet metal borrowed from the school shop, and, something something, I don’t know.

It’s probably for the best that this project never came to fruition.
 
I was pretty into Nightmare on Elm Street when I was in junior high.
Yes, it was a part of my deep dive into horror, inspired by Twin Peaks funnily enough, and a season of Hammer horrors. I simultaneously had an education in 1960s/70 Hammer supernatural stuff and 80s slasher horror. I think the Nightmares on Elm Street attracted me because of my lifelong nightmare problem. I also appreciated the vein of dark humour (also evident in the Hammer films.)
I saw the first one on VHS at a sleepover in the middle of the night, and it managed to really terrify me. My friend had gone to the video store and asked for the scariest movie. (You can argue about this, but it worked on me.)
It's daft that my VHS version was more complete than the Blu-ray. Tina's body splashing on the bed freaked me out. I'd only seen the 'friendly Freddy' of the fourth film.

One day at school I found a simple pen drawing on lined paper taped to a locker, depicting Freddy with a wicked smile, holding up his glove. It wasn’t very skilled, but I really liked it for some reason, and I wanted to know who drew it. I kept asking around. but I never got to the bottom of the mystery, although I suspect that it was drawn by a girl.
Freddy's so distinctive, yet archetypal, both in full light and in silhouette. Wes Craven plays on that, of course, in New Nightmare, when we see a silhouette and realise that Freddy/the evil force has previously been incarnated as Graf Orlok.

The second movie was shockingly bad, but the third one was quite enjoyable. I had a tie-in novelization that I liked as well, and I think that it was probably connected to the third film. It went into Freddie's conception, as well as his upbringing, and how his father was a pimp who beat him with a leather strap. It was really pretty messed up.
The novelisation of the third film uses the Wes Craven/Bruce Wagner screenplay, so it's very different from the final film. I was disappointed at the time, as I love the third film, but it was an interesting, more serious take. Ultimately, I prefer Chuck Russell's approach.

One of my junior high schoolmates and I even had a plan to create a Freddie glove!

Whoops, I mean a Freddy glove. It would have been on old brown cotton gardening glove, “blades” cut from sheet metal borrowed from the school shop, and, something something, I don’t know.

It’s probably for the best that this project never came to fruition.
Yeah, I thought they'd be good for some speedy gardening. Then I looked at Johnny Depp's face in Edward Scissorhands! :D
 
One random shot in 4 that makes me laugh:

Nancy, her father, and a bunch of victims all having headstones side by side. Like did Nancy have something about that in her will?
 
Having watched 4 twice the past few weeks (once on MAX with an overly sharp contrast, and again on a twenty year old dvd that looked gorgeous by comparison), I can’t help but be in awe of Lisa Wilcox as Alice. Two little moments that stuck out to me, both near the end:


- After Alice vanquishes Freddy and frees the souls of all his victims (in a moment that almost feels Disney-esque as all the childish animated heads fly away into the sky), she kicks his glove, starts to walk away, but then pauses to look back at the sky in remembrance. It’s not sad though, as she cracks a smile before exiting. It’s a small moment, but I do think it shows a lot of maturity. Alice is not afraid to look back on a painful past, but she’s not completely beholden to it either.

- And then there’s Alice’s line at the wishing well, where after Dan asks her what she wished for, she replies “if I tell you, it won’t come true.” Even after she gets the guy, she’s able to maintain a level of interiority and private space, thereby keeping the individuality that she fought so hard for intact.


Alice is so fully formed and so great. My recent rewatches of 4 might have led her to dethrone my all-time favorite final girl, Ginny Field from Friday the 13th part 2.
 
One random shot in 4 that makes me laugh:

Nancy, her father, and a bunch of victims all having headstones side by side. Like did Nancy have something about that in her will?
I get the impression that in Springwood, it's a bit like Sunnydale in Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, in that a lot of people know what's going on there and no one talks about it. Kristen openly berates her mother in ANoES4 for her mother and her tennis friends torching Freddy. So maybe the bodies of Freddy's victims are kept close together. Kristen was the last of the Elm Street children killed by Freddy. After her, Freddy has to use other ways to get at people, because he's had his vengeance, but never wants to stop.

It's one of the things that sticks out in ANoES4: Freddy wins. He manages to kill all the children of his murderers, which is a pretty damn bleak thought. Maybe the town will quietly section off the area of the graveyard with Freddy's victims and leave it discarded and forgotten.

I guess people in Springwood would want to bury the truth and allow the graves to be consumed by undergrowth. It's not just Freddy that's a scandal there: it's the whole business of the asylum. Nowadays, of course, that asylum would have been turned into luxury apartments (an opportunity for a sequel if ever there was one!)
 
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Having watched 4 twice the past few weeks (once on MAX with an overly sharp contrast, and again on a twenty year old dvd that looked gorgeous by comparison), I can’t help but be in awe of Lisa Wilcox as Alice.
Lisa Wilcox manages to make sure Alice remains the same character, just a more mature, confident version. It would have been so easy to make Alice into someone completely different by the end of the films. Even more, in the fifth film, with a different creative team, she manages to play a convincingly matured version. Without wanting to risk sounding too pseudy, the Elm Street films, like many genre films, encompasses archetypal characters that represent aspects of us all. Alice, as a consequence of absorbing so many of the different archetypal characters, actually ends her tenure in the films as a fully rounded human being, integrating all those characteristics. It's a hell of a performance and it's a shame she doesn't get better recognition for the role. That's the trouble with the way genre films are treated. I've had so much fun rewatching these films and talking about them.

Alice is so fully formed and so great. My recent rewatches of 4 might have led her to dethrone my all-time favorite final girl, Ginny Field from Friday the 13th part 2.
I need to watch these films. I haven't seen them, bizarrely, but they've avoided the horrendous multiple continuity sub-series that we see in the likes of the Halloween, so I know that if I buy the eight films, I can watch them straight through, then grab the other 'Jason' films.

Anyway, I'm off to grab another coffee and watch Freddy's Dead now. I don't expect to be pleasantly surprised the way I was with ANoES5, sadly. Nevertheless, it's the one Freddy film I actually saw in the cinema! I went with my Dad for my 17th birthday. I was actually a year too young to get in, but I was six feet tall and looked older! Unfortunately, I discovered that an astigmatism makes 3D impossible for me to watch! :D
 
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