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Oh it is for me too, believe me, even though I am an insane Marvel completist. But Sleepwalker popped up in some Infinity Gauntlet crossovers I was reading in the Omnibus...
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Oh it is for me too, believe me, even though I am an insane Marvel completist. But Sleepwalker popped up in some Infinity Gauntlet crossovers I was reading in the Omnibus...
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Now that you mention it, I do remember really liking the title font for Sleepwalker from back in the day. But that’s all I recall.
You seem to be big into comic crossover events — just out of curiosity, what are your favorite crossovers? For me nothing can really touch the original Crisis.
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A few years back I got up to Secret Wars 2. I had heard it was shitty but I actually loved it. It was really funny and character driven and interesting!
I just read Infinity Gauntlet and LOVED IT.
I'm a big DC dork and kind of swallow anything from the mid 80s and 90s. Stuff like Invasion or Death of Superman and Zero Hour or Legends...and yes, Crisis is kind of the top of the mountain, right? I still have a ways to go. I'm trying to read like...everything, very slowly. I've been kind of stuck in the early 90s/late 80s in my DC books for years. There's too much stuff. I'm excited to really read Knightfall and Death of Superman and Infinite Crisis and etc etc for real and with obsessive completist-ness.
I love Vertigo and while Children's Crusade isn't...great...it was still exciting to like gather all those books a few years back and try to sync things up and read it all. I also love subtle crossovers, like Hellblazer and Sandman both have The Family Man serial killer, you find out why he didn't make the convention in Sandman because he was dealing with Constantine in Hellblazer! Oh I love that shit. More more.
Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman are both seen as lone auters but they handle company-wide crossover stuff so beautifully. I love how Moore dealt with Crisis. I love how Grant Morrison deals with it in Animal Man, in such a haunting way. Gaiman's Sandman DC continuity stuff might be the most underrated aspect of his run. He weaves DC mythology in and out of his book so wonderfully that most people don't even know its happening!
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Mid to late 80s DC is totally my jam. I’d say my personal fave DC run is hands down Keith Giffen’s Justice League, with Paul Levitz’s 80’s Legion run being a close second.
As far as Marvel stuff goes, my favorite run might actually be Garth Ennis’ Punisher MAX series. It’s definitely not as fun to revisit as say, Untold Tales of Spider Man, but it just goes for the jugular in a way that I can never shake.
Good point about Gaiman and DC continuity — the manner in which he effortlessly weaves in stuff like Cain and Abel and Hector Hall and Lyta Trevor in a way that doesn’t feel burdensome in the way DC stuff sometimes feels is a great illustration of why Sandman is a masterpiece of the medium.
As far as Marvel stuff goes, my favorite run might actually be Garth Ennis’ Punisher MAX series. It’s definitely not as fun to revisit as say, Untold Tales of Spider Man, but it just goes for the jugular in a way that I can never shake.
Good point about Gaiman and DC continuity — the manner in which he effortlessly weaves in stuff like Cain and Abel and Hector Hall and Lyta Trevor in a way that doesn’t feel burdensome in the way DC stuff sometimes feels is a great illustration of why Sandman is a masterpiece of the medium.
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Let's All Read Alan Moore's Proposal for DC Event Comic, Twilight Of The Superheroes
Okay, time for some light coronavirus reading. Twilight of the Superheroes was a series proposal for DC Comics by Alan Moore, written around 1985 and
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If you like Crisis derived Stories, and you like Grant Morrison, I would recommend, if you havent read it yet: ZENITH!
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I love some Grant Morrison, even some of the obscure early British stuff (St. Swithin’s Day anyone?), but I’ve somehow missed out on Zenith.
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GREAT ONE!
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I had problems following Legion because there are too many characters and I really struggled keeping up with who was who throughout it.
I own Ennis's Punisher Max series but I have not yet read it. I should get on that. I was disappointed heavily in Untold Tales of Spider-Man.
Also yes, I own and have read Zenith. At this point there's so few Grant Morrison that I haven't read yet. I am saving his Justice League run for when I'm up to those years in my DC read, but it's taking forever.
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Have you read NAMELESS?
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Yes, unfortunately I was totally lost during it and found it very frustrating. Always a risk with Morrison. Sometimes his stuff just makes me feel stupid.
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wow, for me is the best of hist "recent" years work. His super-heroes stuff turned boring and repetitive. I love his VERTIGO years, One of his last works i didnt enjoyed that much, but was worth buying for the artwork alone, is ANNIHILATOR. The visual magick that FRAZER IRVING displays is just GOLD
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Woh I totally don't know which is which. Those two books have really similar covers. But I remember feeling that way about both, just not understanding them at all.
It's similar to Lynch though, I am magnetized towards Morrison and Lynch's work BECAUSE I hope to be confused and sort of thrown into madness. But sometimes Morrison's stuff is so incoherent to me, I get frustrated.
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Warren Ellis is to me the perfect combination of the best of Morrison and Moore, but much more "mainstream" I dont see that "problen in his work, and I dont see what you describe as a problem either.
Since you named Ellis, have you read INJECTION?
Since you named Ellis, have you read INJECTION?
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Yeah I am rarely lost when reading Ellis. He has a very blockbuster sensibility mixed with the insane Grant Morrison high concept stuff. I have a giant shelf of Ellis books here! I'm rarely disappointed in his stuff, though I really didn't like Batman's Grave.
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I have yet to read that!..
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You'd think the Ellis dialogue style of curt and cool characters would be perfect for Batman, but the whole thing felt really "off" to me.
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Haven’t read Injection.
Ellis isn’t nearly as bad as Morrison can be in this regard — honestly the only times Ellis has gotten obnoxiously Morrison-y for me were during his X-Men work and maybe a few issues near the end of Planetary.
Ellis’ best works in my view are stormwatch/authority and planetary. And I know I was sort of slagging Morrison a little, but I honestly love his work overall. I still remember how hyped I was for his JLA and X-Men runs back in the day! His Doom Patrol and Animal Man runs are kind of a gold standard of comics for me. Sure, Grant has his excesses, but I can usually forgive them.
Ellis isn’t nearly as bad as Morrison can be in this regard — honestly the only times Ellis has gotten obnoxiously Morrison-y for me were during his X-Men work and maybe a few issues near the end of Planetary.
Ellis’ best works in my view are stormwatch/authority and planetary. And I know I was sort of slagging Morrison a little, but I honestly love his work overall. I still remember how hyped I was for his JLA and X-Men runs back in the day! His Doom Patrol and Animal Man runs are kind of a gold standard of comics for me. Sure, Grant has his excesses, but I can usually forgive them.
