MasterMastermnd
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Yeah, it's definitely not them but it's a fun coincidence they look somewhat similar.
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eyeboogers
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On the other hand, I take it as a clear reference, and not a coincidence, that they picked the Silencio location for episode 8.
Jordan Cole
White Lodge
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Jordan Cole
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So got back today from the big drive-in trip.
I had a bit of a mixed experience at the drive-in and I'm wondering if anyone else can back-up what I'm saying or if anyone knows what the deal is.
After being very anxious about getting-a-good-spot, after some delays we got there at 5:30pm and jumped in the car line. We got a very nice spot in the second row of cars somehow (tons and tons of cars went waaaay back, leaving some open spots towards the front...I wonder why?)
So the event was insanely fun. The band was fantastic, really great setlist (though I kept thinking of songs I wanted to hear), and they especially captured the Julee Cruise songs really well. The most incredible moment of the night is when they finished their set and everyone yelled for an encore, and Michael Horse went up on stage, told them to jam, and then riffed some blues-y song on top about a cadillac. It was just so insane and great and unreal to see that. I posted a video on Twitter here:
It was also surreal to talk to the actors. Me and my wife talked to Dana for a long time, he really is chatty and super friendly and he gave us stickers which was nice of him as we felt bad for not buying anything. My wife asked him if there will be more Twin Peaks and he said definitely not, and talked quite a bit about how it's over. I believed him. I told him his performance, especially in the pilot is so unique, with like the finger snapping, etc, and was that your acting style or...? And he said that was all what David Lynch told him to do.
I mentioned the traffic jam scene in season 3 and I was just like "you saw that performance by that lady and the zombie kid?" and he's like "Yeah! I was right there!" and I asked "what's all that about??" and he shrugged as if to say "fuck if I know!"
I didn't talk to Michael Horse except to thank him for his performance. I didn't talk to Harry as I just got too nervous and didn't know what to say.
Everyone had the coolest Lynch t-shirts. I had my Laura Dern for Best Actress t-shirt (with Lynch and the cow in the back) and got complimented a lot. Talking about each other's shirts was a big theme of the day and a fun way to chat with strangers. Everyone was really nice and basically...a lot like me...which is always a weird experience.
They had free cherry pie!
I ran into an old coworker of mine, which was pretty insane. We talked about Lynch films for a while and it was also cathartic of me to talk about being fired from the job we had and find out what's going on since I left (basically decimated thanks to the strike.)
Me and my wife took photos in the little Red Room set, kind of got caught in a trap of taking tons of other people's photos until I literally had to tell people "OK we have to get out of here or we'll be asked to do this all night." We got some popcorn and ran to the car when the stuff started to play on the screen.
So it was incredible to see Lost Highway while inside a car in the dead of night, and I was also really happy my wife was seeing the film a second time. But...the problem was...the screen was so insanely dark you literally couldn't see half the movie. I'm not exaggerating, the only visible stuff was basically scenes that were during the day or where there's a more bright light on someone. It was like looking at a totally blank screen for certain sections. Examples would be: the scene where Eddy calls Pete, one of my favorite shots in all of cinema, was completely dark. No face on screen. The scene of the guy's head going into the table, totally dark, you couldn't see what happened. Just like any scene of them in the house or them at night or outside or closeups or anything, just like totally black. The scene in the scary cabin that blows up, you couldn't see anything inside there. Couldn't see the Mystery Man standing outside and walking into it. The terrifying scene where the Mystery Man's face is superimposed on Patricia Arquette was barely visible (my wife had to ask me "was her face different?")
I didn't know whether to...complain to someone? Or if it was our windshield, which we kept defogging and wiping down. Did other people feel this way? Is there a reason for this? Is it the 35mm they had or the screen or what? I plan to write to the drive-in just to ask about this, because unfortunately, this sort of thing would make me hesitate about making the trip out there again.
After Lost Highway a car in front of us LEFT! So I ran to my car and zoomed right into that PRIMO SPOT right up front! (note: up front is still way back from the screen, so it's not like it was too close or anything.)
So they screened some of Lynch's The Grandmother between the two movies, which was cool, and also a Woody Woodpecker cartoon! Very cute. Fire Walk With Me played and thankfully, that's not as dark a movie as Lost Highway (visually), so it was mostly very clear, except for a few shots (the convenience store scene was a bit hard to see.) But it looked great and every time I see that movie it's always an amazing experience.
Connectivity I noticed: in Lost Highway, Fred has a pounding headache in jail and asks for an Aspirin. In FWWM, Leland tells Laura during work he had a pounding headache and stopped home for an Aspirin. In both movies you have male protagonists who shift identities and it seems a headache may be one of those signs that a shift is happening? (I also know Leland is probably lying about the Aspirin but I think it's still an interesting thematic connection.)
They announced a special 90-minute surprise feature after FWWM! I thought it was going to be The Missing Pieces, but it turned out to be the European version of the pilot!! We stayed and watched the entire thing, not getting out of there until 4:30 AM and to our motel at 5:00 AM.
It was really amazing going from FWWM to the pilot. I had actually never done that before in such quick succession. The pilot hits incredibly differently and it's just a genius move of Lynch to make Twin Peaks (at that time) this closed circle that never ends that you can never get out of. The moment you "finish" Twin Peaks, the only next thing to do is start it again. And each time it's informed by everything you saw before and it keeps changing and changing.
The international pilot is bizarre. My wife was really kind of baffled by it. What amazes me is that while in some ways it's clunky...oh, the killer is just a random guy we've never seen before (bad Mystery Writing 101), and he's in the boiler room, bang bang, he's dead, case closed! It also has all the hints that they aren't human ("your species..."), really strange tangents (BOB saying "heads up! tails up!" and then the one-armed man yelling "HAS ANYBODY GOT A NICKLE??" after he shoots him. Season 3 brought back the coin motif: WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?), and then of course the 25 Years Later segment is absolutely bizarre in this context. Like taken as its own thing, it's easily the most insane "ending" to a movie that's ever been made. It's the future, this is what reality is like now, Laura is somehow alive, all of the riddle talk, etc, the end. Divorced from the mythology and what we know, it's just so audacious. (BTW, the pilot was not too dark and looked just fine.)
Anyway, we drove out, I got no sleep at all, and then we had a day of fun in Jim Thorpe town, which is a really cute (and BUSTLING) community with tons of fun shops and things to do. Spent hours and hours there. We went to the Old Jail Museum and learned about a haunted handprint on the wall. Went to a scary tunnel and saw some bats (we think...one was a bird...some looked like bats...)
I had a bit of a mixed experience at the drive-in and I'm wondering if anyone else can back-up what I'm saying or if anyone knows what the deal is.
After being very anxious about getting-a-good-spot, after some delays we got there at 5:30pm and jumped in the car line. We got a very nice spot in the second row of cars somehow (tons and tons of cars went waaaay back, leaving some open spots towards the front...I wonder why?)
So the event was insanely fun. The band was fantastic, really great setlist (though I kept thinking of songs I wanted to hear), and they especially captured the Julee Cruise songs really well. The most incredible moment of the night is when they finished their set and everyone yelled for an encore, and Michael Horse went up on stage, told them to jam, and then riffed some blues-y song on top about a cadillac. It was just so insane and great and unreal to see that. I posted a video on Twitter here:
It was also surreal to talk to the actors. Me and my wife talked to Dana for a long time, he really is chatty and super friendly and he gave us stickers which was nice of him as we felt bad for not buying anything. My wife asked him if there will be more Twin Peaks and he said definitely not, and talked quite a bit about how it's over. I believed him. I told him his performance, especially in the pilot is so unique, with like the finger snapping, etc, and was that your acting style or...? And he said that was all what David Lynch told him to do.
I mentioned the traffic jam scene in season 3 and I was just like "you saw that performance by that lady and the zombie kid?" and he's like "Yeah! I was right there!" and I asked "what's all that about??" and he shrugged as if to say "fuck if I know!"
I didn't talk to Michael Horse except to thank him for his performance. I didn't talk to Harry as I just got too nervous and didn't know what to say.
Everyone had the coolest Lynch t-shirts. I had my Laura Dern for Best Actress t-shirt (with Lynch and the cow in the back) and got complimented a lot. Talking about each other's shirts was a big theme of the day and a fun way to chat with strangers. Everyone was really nice and basically...a lot like me...which is always a weird experience.
They had free cherry pie!
I ran into an old coworker of mine, which was pretty insane. We talked about Lynch films for a while and it was also cathartic of me to talk about being fired from the job we had and find out what's going on since I left (basically decimated thanks to the strike.)
Me and my wife took photos in the little Red Room set, kind of got caught in a trap of taking tons of other people's photos until I literally had to tell people "OK we have to get out of here or we'll be asked to do this all night." We got some popcorn and ran to the car when the stuff started to play on the screen.
So it was incredible to see Lost Highway while inside a car in the dead of night, and I was also really happy my wife was seeing the film a second time. But...the problem was...the screen was so insanely dark you literally couldn't see half the movie. I'm not exaggerating, the only visible stuff was basically scenes that were during the day or where there's a more bright light on someone. It was like looking at a totally blank screen for certain sections. Examples would be: the scene where Eddy calls Pete, one of my favorite shots in all of cinema, was completely dark. No face on screen. The scene of the guy's head going into the table, totally dark, you couldn't see what happened. Just like any scene of them in the house or them at night or outside or closeups or anything, just like totally black. The scene in the scary cabin that blows up, you couldn't see anything inside there. Couldn't see the Mystery Man standing outside and walking into it. The terrifying scene where the Mystery Man's face is superimposed on Patricia Arquette was barely visible (my wife had to ask me "was her face different?")
I didn't know whether to...complain to someone? Or if it was our windshield, which we kept defogging and wiping down. Did other people feel this way? Is there a reason for this? Is it the 35mm they had or the screen or what? I plan to write to the drive-in just to ask about this, because unfortunately, this sort of thing would make me hesitate about making the trip out there again.
After Lost Highway a car in front of us LEFT! So I ran to my car and zoomed right into that PRIMO SPOT right up front! (note: up front is still way back from the screen, so it's not like it was too close or anything.)
So they screened some of Lynch's The Grandmother between the two movies, which was cool, and also a Woody Woodpecker cartoon! Very cute. Fire Walk With Me played and thankfully, that's not as dark a movie as Lost Highway (visually), so it was mostly very clear, except for a few shots (the convenience store scene was a bit hard to see.) But it looked great and every time I see that movie it's always an amazing experience.
Connectivity I noticed: in Lost Highway, Fred has a pounding headache in jail and asks for an Aspirin. In FWWM, Leland tells Laura during work he had a pounding headache and stopped home for an Aspirin. In both movies you have male protagonists who shift identities and it seems a headache may be one of those signs that a shift is happening? (I also know Leland is probably lying about the Aspirin but I think it's still an interesting thematic connection.)
They announced a special 90-minute surprise feature after FWWM! I thought it was going to be The Missing Pieces, but it turned out to be the European version of the pilot!! We stayed and watched the entire thing, not getting out of there until 4:30 AM and to our motel at 5:00 AM.
It was really amazing going from FWWM to the pilot. I had actually never done that before in such quick succession. The pilot hits incredibly differently and it's just a genius move of Lynch to make Twin Peaks (at that time) this closed circle that never ends that you can never get out of. The moment you "finish" Twin Peaks, the only next thing to do is start it again. And each time it's informed by everything you saw before and it keeps changing and changing.
The international pilot is bizarre. My wife was really kind of baffled by it. What amazes me is that while in some ways it's clunky...oh, the killer is just a random guy we've never seen before (bad Mystery Writing 101), and he's in the boiler room, bang bang, he's dead, case closed! It also has all the hints that they aren't human ("your species..."), really strange tangents (BOB saying "heads up! tails up!" and then the one-armed man yelling "HAS ANYBODY GOT A NICKLE??" after he shoots him. Season 3 brought back the coin motif: WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?), and then of course the 25 Years Later segment is absolutely bizarre in this context. Like taken as its own thing, it's easily the most insane "ending" to a movie that's ever been made. It's the future, this is what reality is like now, Laura is somehow alive, all of the riddle talk, etc, the end. Divorced from the mythology and what we know, it's just so audacious. (BTW, the pilot was not too dark and looked just fine.)
Anyway, we drove out, I got no sleep at all, and then we had a day of fun in Jim Thorpe town, which is a really cute (and BUSTLING) community with tons of fun shops and things to do. Spent hours and hours there. We went to the Old Jail Museum and learned about a haunted handprint on the wall. Went to a scary tunnel and saw some bats (we think...one was a bird...some looked like bats...)
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Howdy Jowdy
RR Diner
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HA! Was not my car! We were parked a row behind the person in the white Jeep who had the "free" cherry pies. I did notice that security was none too pleased about that.
I do agree with @Jordan Cole about the darkness of some of the scenes. I literally know nothing about 70mm prints or projection of films of any kind, but it appeared from that the print of Lost Highway was super old and a bit worn out, maybe? That possibly could account for its lack of clarity and its darkness? I dunno. Regardless, I am certainly returning for the John Waters weekend at the end of September. I think the not-the-top-of-the-line viewing only adds to the drive-in experience. Not everything needs to be IMAX quality to be enjoyed for what it is. Maybe I'd think differently if I hadn't seen the film before though so, who knows.
I did enjoy the wide variety of t-shirts, too! I wore my FWWM Rucking Fotten shirt and noticed a couple other people wearing theirs, too.
Sad, but not at all surprised, to know there'll be no more TP.
You should've seen the print of FWWM I saw at the National Film Theatre in London a few years back: it looked like it had been dragged through a hedge backwards. It was in a terrible state, covered in scratches and full of sound bumps. The Lodge scenes and the Pink Room scene weren't subtitled, so it was likely a UK print from the 1992 original run! Hell, for all I know it was the print used in the provincial cinema where I saw it on day one!
We were told that there would be no more Twin Peaks many times for over 20 years and we ended up with 18 new episodes! I don't know exactly who owns the rights to Twin Peaks, but at the age of 48, I'm pretty confident we'll see something more related to Twin Peaks in my lifetime, even if it isn't made my David Lynch and Mark Frost. It might not be directly 'Twin Peaks', of course. 'Cooper's' story arguably ended when he headed to Las Vegas and returned to his wife and son. Meanwhile, the entity now called Richard is elsewhere on another mission. Why would Richard and Carrie stay in Twin Peaks after the end of The Return given there's nothing left for them there? You could have a whole new story about them set elsewhere, such as Odessa. If you have the opportunity to get Kyle Maclachlan, Sheryl Lee and Laura Dern together for another production, you'd probably take it!
Yes, this was a really fun part of the night. Here's what I wore: David Lynch T-shirt. I saw another person wearing a shirt from the same line and gave him a big Cooper thumbs-up. My partner wore my FWWM shirt I bought from Bruce Phillips back in the 90's. It was supposedly given to the cast/crew at the end of shooting after party. I could only find this picture online: FWWM shirt. On the back of my shirt the "A Film by David Lynch" is straight and not slanted.
Jordan Cole
White Lodge
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Here's me and my wife in the Red Room set.
Bonus photos of our next day of fun. A helmet at a garage sale. Old Jail Museum madness. The funniest thing was they put Halloween decorations in some of the cells, which cracked us up, because the whole tour was about how tragic and horrible the history of the jail was.
A guy who dressed as moss and jumped out to scare people. And Jim Thorpe Tunnel, a very Lynchian orifice.
Bonus photos of our next day of fun. A helmet at a garage sale. Old Jail Museum madness. The funniest thing was they put Halloween decorations in some of the cells, which cracked us up, because the whole tour was about how tragic and horrible the history of the jail was.
A guy who dressed as moss and jumped out to scare people. And Jim Thorpe Tunnel, a very Lynchian orifice.
Howdy Jowdy
RR Diner
- Apr 19, 2022
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Thank you! Purchased!
That's fascinating... and headache-inducing if you stare at it for too long. Definitely one to put in the lounge for when you have a party!!
cowrus
Sparkwood & 21
- Apr 12, 2022
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Unsure if this is the correct place to share, but Janus Films made an… interesting tweet yesterday. Not unlike the ones they posted as teasers for their Inland Empire and Lost Highway restorations. The timing is very weird - the series’ anniversary was April 8th, and they used a promotional image made for Season 2.
It’d be fantastic if this implies a Criterion release of the original series/The Return, but it might also have something to do with that FWWM 4K listing discovered on Amazon France a few months back.
I know, I know, it’s O&A… but this tweet was just liked and retweeted by Frost.
Hmm... I'd possibly wait for that, although a Criterion set that size would probably require a mortgage to buy!! I'd definitely get FWWM in 4K, although it's said that there's a file corruption currently preventing that, meaning there might need to be a new scan of the negative done...
I'd definitely get FWWM in 4K, although it's said that there's a file corruption currently preventing that, meaning there might need to be a new scan of the negative done...krishnanspace
Glastonbury Grove
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I read somewhere that Val Kilmer was almost cast in Dune. Imagine if David never met Kyle, maybe Val could have been Agent Dale Cooper. Lol
MasterMastermnd
Waiting Room
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Interesting, I think he was offered Blue Velvet as well.
Jackwithoneeye
Great Northern Hotel
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I think Kyle Maclachlan's mother thought the Blue Velvet script was trash and called it 'pornography', and I think Dino De Laurentis' payroll on Dune was slow to pay, and may have created the impression that one could get stiffed continuing to work on Dino financed productions, so Kyle was reluctant to do Blue Velvet for awhile.
Val Kilmer was among alternatives they looked at when Kyle had passed on it, Chris Isaak also. I think Kyle's mom passed away from cancer between Dune and BV. May or may not have been part of why he changed his mind.
Val Kilmer was among alternatives they looked at when Kyle had passed on it, Chris Isaak also. I think Kyle's mom passed away from cancer between Dune and BV. May or may not have been part of why he changed his mind.
